Question:

I want to book a train ticket from Brussels to Amsterdam. Anybody know any sites I can do this ? TIA

Response:

http://www.ns.nl/international/index.cgi Dutch Railways site Click to "Benelux". HTH – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I want to book a train ticket from Brussels to Amsterdam. Anybody know any sites I can do this ? TIA

Response:

I want to book a train ticket from Brussels to Amsterdam. Anybody know any sites I can do this ?

Other than the Thalys (which costs a lot more and saves a few minutes), I don’t think there are reservations on these trains. Just show up at the train station. miguel — Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu New mini photo-feature: Life in DC: http://travel.u.nu/dc/

Response:

Why book? There are trains every hour or so.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I want to book a train ticket from Brussels to Amsterdam. Anybody know any sites I can do this ? TIA

Response:

I was planning on travelling on New Years eve or on the 30th Dec and I am a bit concerned about the trains being busy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Why book? There are trains every hour or so. I want to book a train ticket from Brussels to Amsterdam. Anybody know any sites I can do this ? TIA

Response:

I was planning on travelling on New Years eve or on the 30th Dec and I am a bit concerned about the trains being busy

Then book a Thalys seat. On the other trains you can’t book a seat. Sjoerd

Response:

I want to book a train ticket from Brussels to Amsterdam. Anybody know any sites I can do this ? TIA

Response:

http://www.ns.nl/international/index.cgi Dutch Railways site Click to "Benelux". HTH – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I want to book a train ticket from Brussels to Amsterdam. Anybody know any sites I can do this ? TIA

Response:

I want to book a train ticket from Brussels to Amsterdam. Anybody know any sites I can do this ?

Other than the Thalys (which costs a lot more and saves a few minutes), I don’t think there are reservations on these trains. Just show up at the train station. miguel — Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu New mini photo-feature: Life in DC: http://travel.u.nu/dc/

Response:

Why book? There are trains every hour or so.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I want to book a train ticket from Brussels to Amsterdam. Anybody know any sites I can do this ? TIA

Response:

I was planning on travelling on New Years eve or on the 30th Dec and I am a bit concerned about the trains being busy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Why book? There are trains every hour or so. I want to book a train ticket from Brussels to Amsterdam. Anybody know any sites I can do this ? TIA

Response:

I was planning on travelling on New Years eve or on the 30th Dec and I am a bit concerned about the trains being busy

Then book a Thalys seat. On the other trains you can’t book a seat. Sjoerd

Response:

Question:

On a recent trip to Jackson Hole, I brought a backpack, a duffel bag, and hiking poles.  Both flights hassled me about the hiking poles being a 3rd bag.  On the outbound, they finally let me check them, but they were insistent on charging me $50 on the return (for ski poles that cost me $5). I ended up sending them back with my hiking partner. If I bought some ridiculously priced (compared to $5) telescoping trekking poles, would airlines let me strap them to my pack (Kelty Super Tioga) and count it as 1 bag? Steve Silberberg Steve’s Tiny Book of Romance http://www.callipygianproductions.com/stbor/stbor.html "For man so feared his ignorance, that he created god in his image"-Eric 3:16

Response:

If I bought some ridiculously priced (compared to $5) telescoping trekking poles, would airlines let me strap them to my pack (Kelty Super Tioga) and count it as 1 bag?

Let me save you the effort if you don’t want to read an opinion: I don’t know. Most people (or so I believe) generally wrap their pack in something else – a large duffle or military canvas bag – to prevent all the loops and zippers and such from getting snagged. From what I hear, some airlines insist on this, and will provide you with a cover if you don’t have one (probably for a fee).  So getting back to your question, if they’re strapped to your pack (and not any larger than your pack), and your pack is covered… they’re going to know how?  And even if they do, I don’t see any grounds for a complaint. As a side note, I purchased my Gabel Trek poles for around $30 (yes, I found a deal, it isn’t hard).  They’re rather durable, 3 section, telescoping poles.  Yeah, that’s a lot more than $5.  However, having hiked with $5 ski poles and these, I consider it money well spent.

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If I bought some ridiculously priced (compared to $5) telescoping trekking poles, would airlines let me strap them to my pack (Kelty Super Tioga) and count it as 1 bag? Let me save you the effort if you don’t want to read an opinion: I don’t know. Most people (or so I believe) generally wrap their pack in something else – a large duffle or military canvas bag – to prevent all the loops and zippers and such from getting snagged. From what I hear, some airlines insist on this, and will provide you with a cover if you don’t have one (probably for a fee).  So getting back to your question, if they’re strapped to your pack (and not any larger than your pack), and your pack is covered… they’re going to know how?  And even if they do, I don’t see any grounds for a complaint.

This is generally the way to go: put your fully loaded pack into a large, simple duffel bag. The airlines are very concerned about loose straps and stuff on the outside of a pack getting jammed. They probably care more about their conveyor belt system than your stuff. It also makes your pack less attractive to thieves, so pick a cheap looking, ugly duffel. At the other end, just pull the pack out of the duffel and wear it out of the airport. The collapsible poles being shorter than the pack should make them less noticable. Sometimes I have buried them in the center of a big duffel with soft stuff at each end. Same deal with ice axes, BTW. If you have what appears to be a backpack, they sometimes will ask extra questions about stoves and the like. Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

Response:

The collapsible poles being shorter than the pack should make them less noticable.

Take them in your hand and walk funny… Tell them you need them for stability.  Ou might get a good seat, too. Same deal with ice axes, BTW.

Again, carry on.  It is your back scratcher.  Tell them you have a skin disease and need to scratch a lot.  Good chances you’ll get a seat without someone sitting next to you too. -Pete — — LITTLE KNOWN FACT: Did you know that 90% of North Americans cannot                    taste the difference between fried dog and fried cat?

Response:

I had a similar problem flying on Jetblue.  My poles are type telesecoping.  On the way out they made me put them in one of there boxes.  On the way back they were out of boxes, so they wrapped the tips in packaging tape, so they points were covered, and strapped it to my pack.  They did not impose a service charge in either way.  I’de say put them in a box or bag next trip. – Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On a recent trip to Jackson Hole, I brought a backpack, a duffel bag, and hiking poles.  Both flights hassled me about the hiking poles being a 3rd bag.  On the outbound, they finally let me check them, but they were insistent on charging me $50 on the return (for ski poles that cost me $5). I ended up sending them back with my hiking partner. If I bought some ridiculously priced (compared to $5) telescoping trekking poles, would airlines let me strap them to my pack (Kelty Super Tioga) and count it as 1 bag? Steve Silberberg Steve’s Tiny Book of Romance http://www.callipygianproductions.com/stbor/stbor.html "For man so feared his ignorance, that he created god in his image"-Eric 3:16

Response:

I see they put skates on the list!  They are odd critters to pack in a suitcase. GaryJ http://www.tc.gc.ca/majorissues/transportationsecurity/bagage.htm For the complete list, see the link above. Lynn

– Director, Family Canoeing Centre Recreational canoeing courses for the whole family.

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You’re a day too late. Transport Canada has just published a list of items prohibited in carry-on luggage. See http://www.tc.gc.ca/majorissues/transportationsecurity/bagage.htm The list includes these items (check before boarding to make sure one of these hasn’t been accidentally forgotten in some dark corner of your luggage!):  - automatic weapons  - billiard cues  - bows and arrows  - Chemicals or gases that are disabling (such as incapacitating    sprays, pepper spray, mace and tear gas)   … (I guess bear spray is out)  - golf clubs  - hockey sticks  - ice axes and ice picks   …(sorry, Pete)  - lacrosse sticks  - paint  - scuba tanks  - ski poles  - whips For the complete list, see the link above. Lynn

Prohibited in carry on, but many of those items should be OK in checked luggage. People would be more willing to put many items into checked luggage if the airlines could improve: reduce pilfering of luggage contents reduce damage to items in their care getting the bags to the same place at the same time as the passenger The main reasons people want to bring things in carry-on are concerns about the above, and wanting to get off the plane and go rather than wait half an hour for luggage to emerge at the carousel. Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

Response:

I had a similar problem flying on Jetblue.  My poles are type telesecoping.  On the way out they made me put them in one of there boxes.  On the way back they were out of boxes, so they wrapped the tips in packaging tape, so they points were covered, and strapped it to my pack.  They did not impose a service charge in either way.  I’de say put them in a box or bag next trip. – Dave

…or a rod case (as in fishing rod). It worked for me but then I had a place where I could leave the rod case until my pack trip was over and done with. ron

Response:

: People would be more willing to put many items into checked luggage if : the airlines could improve: : reduce pilfering of luggage contents : reduce damage to items in their care : getting the bags to the same place at the same time as the passenger True. I have the worst luck with lost luggage. I’ve had my luggage misplaced with most of the carriers I’ve flown with. But then, some of them have given me great stuff because of it. Qantas is the best. They gave me a great kit, complete with a T-shirt and shorts, plus $60 to spend on gear. Air Canada was the worst. They gave me nothing but unkept promises that my luggage would show up in 24 hours. Not! But I keep checking my luggage anyway. I’m not sure how I’d fit my billiard cue under the seat in front of me, or in the overhead bin Lynn

Response:

I see they put skates on the list!  They are odd critters to pack in a suitcase. GaryJ http://www.tc.gc.ca/majorissues/transportationsecurity/bagage.htm For the complete list, see the link above. Lynn

Not in Canada — Rich Enfield NS Canada

Response:

: Same deal with ice axes, BTW. : Again, carry on.  It is your back scratcher.  Tell them you : have a skin disease and need to scratch a lot.  Good chances you’ll : get a seat without someone sitting next to you too. You’re a day too late. Transport Canada has just published a list of items prohibited in carry-on luggage. See http://www.tc.gc.ca/majorissues/transportationsecurity/bagage.htm

Wow..  I’m surprised that they *list* ice axes.  Some good ones there.  I like:    Toy weapons including toy transformer robots that form into toy guns And you can’t bring your own fire extinguishers any more!  I’m taking the train! -Pete — — LITTLE KNOWN FACT: Did you know that 90% of North Americans cannot                    taste the difference between fried dog and fried cat?

Response:

You kidding me??  I just brought my skates (and the rest of my hockey gear) when I went back east where I grew up, so I could get in some games. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I see they put skates on the list!  They are odd critters to pack in a suitcase. GaryJ http://www.tc.gc.ca/majorissues/transportationsecurity/bagage.htm For the complete list, see the link above. Lynn

Response:

We have ben using an army duffle with great success for about 15 years, and simply slip the the poles in along the side of the pack (use pole tip covers or corks to keep tips from puncturing the duffel). Alas, there is a new problem (as I noted in a separate rec.backcountry thread). There are now reports that to boost their sagging profits, airlines are now getting very picky about checked luggage size, and for most carriers, anything bigger than 62 linear inches (height plus width plus depth)triggers an $80 per segment oversize baggage charge. This could mean an extra $320 for a round trip with one plane change each way! Most packs for a weeklong or greater trip will exceed 62 linear inches. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is generally the way to go: put your fully loaded pack into a large, simple duffel bag. The airlines are very concerned about loose straps and stuff on the outside of a pack getting jammed. Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

Response:

them back with my hiking partner. If I bought some ridiculously priced (compared to $5) telescoping trekking poles, would airlines let me strap them to my pack (Kelty Super Tioga) and count it as 1 bag?

I’m a climber so I have plenty of experience traveling with climbing/hiking gear. I bought a couple of very large duffle bags and throw everything in them, including hiking poles and my backpack. Most times one duffel bag is good enought for everything (it’s a really large bag). I hate carrying stuff onboard. Coincidently, Jackson Hole is the only airport where I’ve heard complaints about the weight of my bag, but I smiled, answered nicely, and they let it pass That’s also when I decided to start using two lighter bags rather than one heavy one.      - Manuel.

Response:

Not much to it.  The airlines must handle 10 pairs of ski poles during prime ski season compared to the number of hiking poles.  Just check odd sized luggage.

Response:

Not much to it.  The airlines must handle 10 pairs of ski poles during prime ski season compared to the number of hiking poles.  Just check odd sized luggage.

Some airports, like Denver International, are really set up well for odd items like skis and poles. They have a special luggage carousel customized for those items. Others act like no one has ever traveled with skis before. Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

Response:

Not much to it.  The airlines must handle 10 pairs of ski poles during prime ski season compared to the number of hiking poles.  Just check odd sized luggage. Some airports, like Denver International, are really set up well for odd items like skis and poles. They have a special luggage carousel customized for those items. Others act like no one has ever traveled with skis before.

Ski poles are pretty minor among cargos carried by airlines. Gun cases, bicycles, folding boats/kayaks, surf boards, and a slew of hazardous items are carried every day in planes. Skis and poles are pretty minor.  Odd sized and other special luggage are just another issue.  This is why the arlines have luggage/cargo offices next to luggage ports.  The issue isn’t usually "if" but "how" and "where." Really big cargo gets carried by special 737s used by Alaska Air, or cargo liners like Flying Tiger et al.  Poles are trivial.

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On a recent trip to Jackson Hole, I brought a backpack, a duffel bag, and hiking poles.  Both flights hassled me about the hiking poles being a 3rd bag.  On the outbound, they finally let me check them, but they were insistent on charging me $50 on the return (for ski poles that cost me $5). I ended up sending them back with my hiking partner. If I bought some ridiculously priced (compared to $5) telescoping trekking poles, would airlines let me strap them to my pack (Kelty Super Tioga) and count it as 1 bag? Steve Silberberg Steve’s Tiny Book of Romance http://www.callipygianproductions.com/stbor/stbor.html "For man so feared his ignorance, that he created god in his image"-Eric 3:16

The answer is yes. I recently travel from Amsterdam to Kona(Hawaii) and from Kona to Kauai and then to Amsterdam. With UAL and Aloha. My telescopic hiking poles were just strapped to my backpack, also my tent and mat. And the pack did the trip without a problem or a complaint from the airlines (8 planes,4 airports, maaany screenings). I like to hike and I always fly with the poles attached to the pack, and never had a problem.

Response:

Question:

Since the two posts I’ve made here that have gotten the most response were in the categories of fat people having to buy two seats, and racial profiling of Moslims at security- I thought I’d pass along the following annecdote.  I don’t really think it has a point, but it sure combines those issues. As a poor law student, I decided to travel to Amsterdam with my wife. We went with a very cheap flight on Pakistani International Airlines. Great flight overall:  Great food, 747 (a decade ago when they weren’t quite as old), and Moslims prayers at the beginning of the flight (leaving the racist in me feeling certain we wouldn’t be attaked by terrorists.  The downside was that they didn’t serve alcohol, but I brought my own flask. On the way back, things weren’t as great.  Our flight originated in Kazistan, and stopped in Amsterdam enroute to NYC.  It was also at the end of Ramadan (Sp?) so many families who had gone home for the holiday were going back to New York.  So I’m on  a flight with a lot of kids who had been on the plane for 8 hours by the time I get on.  And while I know I have no right to complain, screaming children are somehow more annoying when they scream in a different language.  But hey, it’s their airline, I’m the tourist, and the food was way better than U.S. airlines. But when my wife and I get on the plane, she has the window, I have the middle, and a Pakistani woman has the aisle.  Now I’m not huge, but at the time I was around 200, maybe 210, and 6-feet.  And the woman informs me it’s against her religion to come in contact with a man who’s not her husband, and asks me to switch seats with my wife. Hey, what the heck, the window leaves me firther from the kids running up and down the aisle, so I tell her sure, no problem.  But afterward I can’t really decide whether I’ve been insulted, or whether a Muslim airline should take such things into account when designating seats. Do I have a point?  Not really, just amused at how the two topics overlapped. A;

Response:

Since the two posts I’ve made here that have gotten the most response were in the categories of fat people having to buy two seats, and racial profiling of Moslims at security- I thought I’d pass along the following annecdote.  I don’t really think it has a point, but it sure combines those issues…..<drivel eliminated….

Moslems are not a racial group……they are members of a religion. No, Arabs are not a racial group, either.  The term "Arab" refers to a culture.

Response:

Since the two posts I’ve made here that have gotten the most response were in the categories of fat people having to buy two seats, and racial profiling of Moslims at security- I thought I’d pass along the following annecdote.  I don’t really think it has a point, but it sure combines those issues…..<drivel eliminated…. Moslems are not a racial group……they are members of a religion. No, Arabs are not a racial group, either.  The term "Arab" refers to a culture.

Check your sources.  Arabs are considered a "race".  Look it up in Webster’s. I say we strip search and cavity check every one of them when going through our airports.

Response:

I say we strip search and cavity check every one of them when going through our airports.

Patti

Response:

Moslems are not a racial group……they are members of a religion. No, Arabs are not a racial group, either.  The term "Arab" refers to a culture. Check your sources.  Arabs are considered a "race".  Look it up in Webster’s.

Webster’s, as you call it, is in error. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

Response:

Oh, I am sorry!  You of course are the expert when determining whether a group of people are considered a race. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Moslems are not a racial group……they are members of a religion. No, Arabs are not a racial group, either.  The term "Arab" refers to a culture. Check your sources.  Arabs are considered a "race".  Look it up in Webster’s. Webster’s, as you call it, is in error.

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since the two posts I’ve made here that have gotten the most response were in the categories of fat people having to buy two seats, and racial profiling of Moslims at security- I thought I’d pass along the following annecdote.  I don’t really think it has a point, but it sure combines those issues. As a poor law student, I decided to travel to Amsterdam with my wife. We went with a very cheap flight on Pakistani International Airlines. Great flight overall:  Great food, 747 (a decade ago when they weren’t quite as old), and Moslims prayers at the beginning of the flight (leaving the racist in me feeling certain we wouldn’t be attaked by terrorists.  The downside was that they didn’t serve alcohol, but I brought my own flask. On the way back, things weren’t as great.  Our flight originated in Kazistan, and stopped in Amsterdam enroute to NYC.  It was also at the end of Ramadan (Sp?) so many families who had gone home for the holiday were going back to New York.  So I’m on  a flight with a lot of kids who had been on the plane for 8 hours by the time I get on.  And while I know I have no right to complain, screaming children are somehow more annoying when they scream in a different language.  But hey, it’s their airline, I’m the tourist, and the food was way better than U.S. airlines. But when my wife and I get on the plane, she has the window, I have the middle, and a Pakistani woman has the aisle.  Now I’m not huge, but at the time I was around 200, maybe 210, and 6-feet.  And the woman informs me it’s against her religion to come in contact with a man who’s not her husband, and asks me to switch seats with my wife. Hey, what the heck, the window leaves me firther from the kids running up and down the aisle, so I tell her sure, no problem.  But afterward I can’t really decide whether I’ve been insulted, or whether a Muslim airline should take such things into account when designating seats. Do I have a point?  Not really, just amused at how the two topics overlapped. A;

Al, You are easily amused. I would have told her tough, it is your seat and she can deal with it or move. Chris

Response:

I say we strip search and cavity check every one of them when going through our airports.

Let me guess, you want to be the guy going in with the rubber glove on. Hell, I bet you would not even want the glove. Chris

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Moslems are not a racial group……they are members of a religion. No, Arabs are not a racial group, either.  The term "Arab" refers to a culture. Check your sources.  Arabs are considered a "race".  Look it up in Webster’s. Webster’s, as you call it, is in error.

Is this chick for real? She actually thinks she is smarter than Websters? Chris

Response:

No, I heard you really enjoyed that sort of the thing.  Let loose the Chris the Gimp!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I say we strip search and cavity check every one of them when going through our airports. Let me guess, you want to be the guy going in with the rubber glove on. Hell, I bet you would not even want the glove. Chris

Response:

No, I heard you really enjoyed that sort of the thing.  Let loose the Chris the Gimp!

Oh, quick and whitty come back Markie. Your momma sure loves it when I use the glove! Chris

Response:

Wow, Thanks alot Sissy Chrissy! That means alot coming from an unimaginative mental retard like yourself who has resorted to "Yo Mama" barbs.  I guess it is true what they say about AOL users.  And you have proven that theory beyond any reasonable doubt. I hear they only you get a chance to use that rubber glove on is yourself. Multiple times a day.  Even then the results are not satifactory. Ha Ha

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No, I heard you really enjoyed that sort of the thing.  Let loose the Chris the Gimp! Oh, quick and whitty come back Markie. Your momma sure loves it when I use the glove! Chris

Response:

No, I heard you really enjoyed that sort of the thing.  Let loose the Chris the Gimp!

Oh, quick and whitty come back Markie. Your momma sure loves it when I use the glove! Chrissy

Response:

That is really original and witty for a fat twit like you. You probably enjoy giving the rubber glove treatment.  You know being the lesbian science fiction writer that you are.  Been to any DragonCon’s, Star Trek Conventions or other weirdo gathering you like to go to

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No, I heard you really enjoyed that sort of the thing.  Let loose the Chris the Gimp! Oh, quick and whitty come back Markie. Your momma sure loves it when I use the glove! Chrissy

Response:

That is really original and witty for a fat twit like you.

What did I do to you? You probably enjoy giving the rubber glove treatment.  You know being the lesbian science fiction writer that you are.  Been to any DragonCon’s, Star Trek Conventions or other weirdo gathering you like to go to

Response:

Is this chick for real? She actually thinks she is smarter than Websters? Chris

That’s Webster’s, NOT Websters.  I’m sure you imagine it has something to do with Daniel, no doubt.  You should try thinking for yourself instead of relying on other people who, although well intentioned, are prone to error.

Response:

Let the Arabs fly! But get rid of the lawyers! T.R. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since the two posts I’ve made here that have gotten the most response were in the categories of fat people having to buy two seats, and racial profiling of Moslims at security- I thought I’d pass along the following annecdote.  I don’t really think it has a point, but it sure combines those issues. As a poor law student, I decided to travel to Amsterdam with my wife. We went with a very cheap flight on Pakistani International Airlines. Great flight overall:  Great food, 747 (a decade ago when they weren’t quite as old), and Moslims prayers at the beginning of the flight (leaving the racist in me feeling certain we wouldn’t be attaked by terrorists.  The downside was that they didn’t serve alcohol, but I brought my own flask. On the way back, things weren’t as great.  Our flight originated in Kazistan, and stopped in Amsterdam enroute to NYC.  It was also at the end of Ramadan (Sp?) so many families who had gone home for the holiday were going back to New York.  So I’m on  a flight with a lot of kids who had been on the plane for 8 hours by the time I get on.  And while I know I have no right to complain, screaming children are somehow more annoying when they scream in a different language.  But hey, it’s their airline, I’m the tourist, and the food was way better than U.S. airlines. But when my wife and I get on the plane, she has the window, I have the middle, and a Pakistani woman has the aisle.  Now I’m not huge, but at the time I was around 200, maybe 210, and 6-feet.  And the woman informs me it’s against her religion to come in contact with a man who’s not her husband, and asks me to switch seats with my wife. Hey, what the heck, the window leaves me firther from the kids running up and down the aisle, so I tell her sure, no problem.  But afterward I can’t really decide whether I’ve been insulted, or whether a Muslim airline should take such things into account when designating seats. Do I have a point?  Not really, just amused at how the two topics overlapped. A;

Response:

Since the two posts I’ve made here that have gotten the most response were in the categories of fat people having to buy two seats, and racial profiling of Moslims at security- I thought I’d pass along the following annecdote.  I don’t really think it has a point, but it sure combines those issues. As a poor law student, I decided to travel to Amsterdam with my wife. We went with a very cheap flight on Pakistani International Airlines. Great flight overall:  Great food, 747 (a decade ago when they weren’t quite as old), and Moslims prayers at the beginning of the flight (leaving the racist in me feeling certain we wouldn’t be attaked by terrorists.  The downside was that they didn’t serve alcohol, but I brought my own flask. On the way back, things weren’t as great.  Our flight originated in Kazistan, and stopped in Amsterdam enroute to NYC.  It was also at the end of Ramadan (Sp?) so many families who had gone home for the holiday were going back to New York.  So I’m on  a flight with a lot of kids who had been on the plane for 8 hours by the time I get on.  And while I know I have no right to complain, screaming children are somehow more annoying when they scream in a different language.  But hey, it’s their airline, I’m the tourist, and the food was way better than U.S. airlines. But when my wife and I get on the plane, she has the window, I have the middle, and a Pakistani woman has the aisle.  Now I’m not huge, but at the time I was around 200, maybe 210, and 6-feet.  And the woman informs me it’s against her religion to come in contact with a man who’s not her husband, and asks me to switch seats with my wife. Hey, what the heck, the window leaves me firther from the kids running up and down the aisle, so I tell her sure, no problem.  But afterward I can’t really decide whether I’ve been insulted, or whether a Muslim airline should take such things into account when designating seats. Do I have a point?  Not really, just amused at how the two topics overlapped. A;

Response:

Since the two posts I’ve made here that have gotten the most response were in the categories of fat people having to buy two seats, and racial profiling of Moslims at security- I thought I’d pass along the following annecdote.  I don’t really think it has a point, but it sure combines those issues…..<drivel eliminated….

Moslems are not a racial group……they are members of a religion. No, Arabs are not a racial group, either.  The term "Arab" refers to a culture.

Response:

Since the two posts I’ve made here that have gotten the most response were in the categories of fat people having to buy two seats, and racial profiling of Moslims at security- I thought I’d pass along the following annecdote.  I don’t really think it has a point, but it sure combines those issues…..<drivel eliminated…. Moslems are not a racial group……they are members of a religion. No, Arabs are not a racial group, either.  The term "Arab" refers to a culture.

Check your sources.  Arabs are considered a "race".  Look it up in Webster’s. I say we strip search and cavity check every one of them when going through our airports.

Response:

I say we strip search and cavity check every one of them when going through our airports.

Patti

Response:

Moslems are not a racial group……they are members of a religion. No, Arabs are not a racial group, either.  The term "Arab" refers to a culture. Check your sources.  Arabs are considered a "race".  Look it up in Webster’s.

Webster’s, as you call it, is in error. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

Response:

Oh, I am sorry!  You of course are the expert when determining whether a group of people are considered a race. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Moslems are not a racial group……they are members of a religion. No, Arabs are not a racial group, either.  The term "Arab" refers to a culture. Check your sources.  Arabs are considered a "race".  Look it up in Webster’s. Webster’s, as you call it, is in error.

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since the two posts I’ve made here that have gotten the most response were in the categories of fat people having to buy two seats, and racial profiling of Moslims at security- I thought I’d pass along the following annecdote.  I don’t really think it has a point, but it sure combines those issues. As a poor law student, I decided to travel to Amsterdam with my wife. We went with a very cheap flight on Pakistani International Airlines. Great flight overall:  Great food, 747 (a decade ago when they weren’t quite as old), and Moslims prayers at the beginning of the flight (leaving the racist in me feeling certain we wouldn’t be attaked by terrorists.  The downside was that they didn’t serve alcohol, but I brought my own flask. On the way back, things weren’t as great.  Our flight originated in Kazistan, and stopped in Amsterdam enroute to NYC.  It was also at the end of Ramadan (Sp?) so many families who had gone home for the holiday were going back to New York.  So I’m on  a flight with a lot of kids who had been on the plane for 8 hours by the time I get on.  And while I know I have no right to complain, screaming children are somehow more annoying when they scream in a different language.  But hey, it’s their airline, I’m the tourist, and the food was way better than U.S. airlines. But when my wife and I get on the plane, she has the window, I have the middle, and a Pakistani woman has the aisle.  Now I’m not huge, but at the time I was around 200, maybe 210, and 6-feet.  And the woman informs me it’s against her religion to come in contact with a man who’s not her husband, and asks me to switch seats with my wife. Hey, what the heck, the window leaves me firther from the kids running up and down the aisle, so I tell her sure, no problem.  But afterward I can’t really decide whether I’ve been insulted, or whether a Muslim airline should take such things into account when designating seats. Do I have a point?  Not really, just amused at how the two topics overlapped. A;

Al, You are easily amused. I would have told her tough, it is your seat and she can deal with it or move. Chris

Response:

I say we strip search and cavity check every one of them when going through our airports.

Let me guess, you want to be the guy going in with the rubber glove on. Hell, I bet you would not even want the glove. Chris

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Moslems are not a racial group……they are members of a religion. No, Arabs are not a racial group, either.  The term "Arab" refers to a culture. Check your sources.  Arabs are considered a "race".  Look it up in Webster’s. Webster’s, as you call it, is in error.

Is this chick for real? She actually thinks she is smarter than Websters? Chris

Response:

No, I heard you really enjoyed that sort of the thing.  Let loose the Chris the Gimp!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I say we strip search and cavity check every one of them when going through our airports. Let me guess, you want to be the guy going in with the rubber glove on. Hell, I bet you would not even want the glove. Chris

Response:

No, I heard you really enjoyed that sort of the thing.  Let loose the Chris the Gimp!

Oh, quick and whitty come back Markie. Your momma sure loves it when I use the glove! Chris

Response:

Wow, Thanks alot Sissy Chrissy! That means alot coming from an unimaginative mental retard like yourself who has resorted to "Yo Mama" barbs.  I guess it is true what they say about AOL users.  And you have proven that theory beyond any reasonable doubt. I hear they only you get a chance to use that rubber glove on is yourself. Multiple times a day.  Even then the results are not satifactory. Ha Ha

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No, I heard you really enjoyed that sort of the thing.  Let loose the Chris the Gimp! Oh, quick and whitty come back Markie. Your momma sure loves it when I use the glove! Chris

Response:

No, I heard you really enjoyed that sort of the thing.  Let loose the Chris the Gimp!

Oh, quick and whitty come back Markie. Your momma sure loves it when I use the glove! Chrissy

Response:

That is really original and witty for a fat twit like you. You probably enjoy giving the rubber glove treatment.  You know being the lesbian science fiction writer that you are.  Been to any DragonCon’s, Star Trek Conventions or other weirdo gathering you like to go to

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No, I heard you really enjoyed that sort of the thing.  Let loose the Chris the Gimp! Oh, quick and whitty come back Markie. Your momma sure loves it when I use the glove! Chrissy

Response:

That is really original and witty for a fat twit like you.

What did I do to you? You probably enjoy giving the rubber glove treatment.  You know being the lesbian science fiction writer that you are.  Been to any DragonCon’s, Star Trek Conventions or other weirdo gathering you like to go to

Response:

Is this chick for real? She actually thinks she is smarter than Websters? Chris

That’s Webster’s, NOT Websters.  I’m sure you imagine it has something to do with Daniel, no doubt.  You should try thinking for yourself instead of relying on other people who, although well intentioned, are prone to error.

Response:

Let the Arabs fly! But get rid of the lawyers! T.R. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since the two posts I’ve made here that have gotten the most response were in the categories of fat people having to buy two seats, and racial profiling of Moslims at security- I thought I’d pass along the following annecdote.  I don’t really think it has a point, but it sure combines those issues. As a poor law student, I decided to travel to Amsterdam with my wife. We went with a very cheap flight on Pakistani International Airlines. Great flight overall:  Great food, 747 (a decade ago when they weren’t quite as old), and Moslims prayers at the beginning of the flight (leaving the racist in me feeling certain we wouldn’t be attaked by terrorists.  The downside was that they didn’t serve alcohol, but I brought my own flask. On the way back, things weren’t as great.  Our flight originated in Kazistan, and stopped in Amsterdam enroute to NYC.  It was also at the end of Ramadan (Sp?) so many families who had gone home for the holiday were going back to New York.  So I’m on  a flight with a lot of kids who had been on the plane for 8 hours by the time I get on.  And while I know I have no right to complain, screaming children are somehow more annoying when they scream in a different language.  But hey, it’s their airline, I’m the tourist, and the food was way better than U.S. airlines. But when my wife and I get on the plane, she has the window, I have the middle, and a Pakistani woman has the aisle.  Now I’m not huge, but at the time I was around 200, maybe 210, and 6-feet.  And the woman informs me it’s against her religion to come in contact with a man who’s not her husband, and asks me to switch seats with my wife. Hey, what the heck, the window leaves me firther from the kids running up and down the aisle, so I tell her sure, no problem.  But afterward I can’t really decide whether I’ve been insulted, or whether a Muslim airline should take such things into account when designating seats. Do I have a point?  Not really, just amused at how the two topics overlapped. A;

Response:

Question:

          But before I do I have another question (sorry! ), does anyone know if any unaccompanied 17 year old can travel on Eurolines?

According to the Transportation Conditions on their Dutch site, you only need supervision if you are younger than 16 years, so it is not a problem. Groeten, Siebrand

Response:

Hi, You can fly from London Stansted to Eindhoven by Ryanair Look at their website www.ryanair.com If you can manage to travel on mondays through thunnersdays, it is VERRY cheap. You are able to fly just for 1,50 EURO one way. So its 3 EURO for a return trip. This is excluding taxes. Unfortunately the taxes are much higher than that. Still it is verry cheap and maybe cheaper than whatever. From Eindhoven airport (a regional airport located in the south of the Netherlands) you can take a bus to the train station of Eindhoven. From there you can travel to Amsterdam by train. No train transfers needed between Eindhoven en Amsterdam. Marcel. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I am new to this group and I’m wondering if someone here more experienced than myself could answer me a few questions . I’d greatly appreciate that! Next year, I am moving to Amsterdam, The Netherlands. However, I will be 17, so money won’t be that plentiful. So I have heard that you can coaches down from London, UK (where I am based) to Amsterdam, on a service called Eurolines. Has anyone here took this journey before? What’s it like? Any tips/advice? Should I be worried about crime or for my personal safety upon the coach, or is it very safe? I hope somebody could advise me! Also, where does this Eurolines coach actually stop in Amsterdam? In city centre? Many, many thanks and I hope somebody can help! Best regards, James.

Response:

Thanks to everyone for all their help in answering my questions. I really appreciate it! Thanks a million! And I look forward to using Eurolines. But before I do I have another question (sorry! ), does anyone know if any unaccompanied 17 year old can travel on Eurolines? I have got full parental consent to emigrate to the Netherlands (checked with their embassy), but would Eurolines accept me? Lastly, what is the usual crowd on this route – students, pensioners etc etc etc?

There’s not a chance anyone on Eurolines is even going to look at your ID, let alone care how old you are (as long as you look old enough to go to the bathroom by yourself and tie your own shoes). It’s a mix of backpackers (50-70%) and other assorted folks who don’t want to spend the money on the train (students, recent immigrants, etc.). miguel — Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu New mini photo-feature: Life in DC: http://travel.u.nu/dc/

Response:

Are you sure about this? It must have been a recent change. Every time I’ve used them it’s been at Amstel Station. And that’s also what their web site says (http://www.eurolines.nl/map-adam.html – the thing shown near the north end of the Rokin is just the ticket office, no way they could get a lot of big buses through there without wasting hours of time).

Damn you’re right I took another bus service towards the city. The eurolines terminal is indeed out of the touristic centre

Response:

Hi, Thanks to everyone for all their help in answering my questions. I really appreciate it! Thanks a million! And I look forward to using Eurolines. But before I do I have another question (sorry! ), does anyone know if any unaccompanied 17 year old can travel on Eurolines? I have got full parental consent to emigrate to the Netherlands (checked with their embassy), but would Eurolines accept me? Lastly, what is the usual crowd on this route – students, pensioners etc etc etc? Many thanks again!!!! Best regards, James.

Response:

Hi,  I used it last summer and it is very good, other than the 12 hour travel time.  The first stop after London is at the Eurotunnel, where you clear French Customs, before loading the coach on the Le Shuttle train for the 35 minute journey through the tunnel.  Take it and enjoy. JR

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I am new to this group and I’m wondering if someone here more experienced than myself could answer me a few questions . I’d greatly appreciate that! Next year, I am moving to Amsterdam, The Netherlands. However, I will be 17, so money won’t be that plentiful. So I have heard that you can coaches down from London, UK (where I am based) to Amsterdam, on a service called Eurolines. Has anyone here took this journey before? What’s it like? Any tips/advice? Should I be worried about crime or for my personal safety upon the coach, or is it very safe? I hope somebody could advise me! Also, where does this Eurolines coach actually stop in Amsterdam? In city centre? Many, many thanks and I hope somebody can help! Best regards, James.

Response:

Next year, I am moving to Amsterdam, The Netherlands. However, I will be 17, so money won’t be that plentiful. So I have heard that you can coaches down from London, UK (where I am based) to Amsterdam, on a service called Eurolines. Has anyone here took this journey before? What’s it like? Any tips/advice? Should I be worried about crime or for my personal safety upon the coach, or is it very safe? I hope somebody could advise me!

I used this line a few years ago, going from Rotterdam to London and back. It is a cheap option and the bus is comfortable enough. It takes about 12 hours from London to Amsterdam and usually there is a day bus and an overnight bus. I took the overnight bus, I had to leave the bus on the ferry and did not sleep a lot. I did not feel unsafe on the bus. Also, where does this Eurolines coach actually stop in Amsterdam? In city centre?

They go to the Amstel-station. The station has good connections to the Central Station and other parts of Amsterdam. You might want to check out the train-ferry-train service via Harwich and Hoek van Holland <http://www.amsterdamexpress.co.uk/. It is faster and more comfortable and, depending on your situation, might be cheaper than Eurolines. Groeten, Siebrand

Response:

I went by coach nearly 20 years ago. It was perfectly safe, and reasonably comfortable, but God it was dull – 13 hours, with stops for the ferry, and somewhere near the Dutch/Belgian border (this is one trip where the Euro comes into its own – it was years before I got to spend all the Belgian change I accumulated from that meal). According to the Eurolines website, the terminal in Amsterdam is Amstel station, which is not immediately in the city centre, but well situated for getting there reasonably quickly by public transport. PJW – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -So I have heard that you can coaches down from London, UK (where I am based) to Amsterdam, on a service called Eurolines. Has anyone here took this journey before? What’s it like? Any tips/advice? Should I be worried about crime or for my personal safety upon the coach, or is it very safe? I hope somebody could advise me!

Response:

Hi all, I am new to this group and I’m wondering if someone here more experienced than myself could answer me a few questions . I’d greatly appreciate that!

Damn I feel old reading this and I’m only 21. Next year, I am moving to Amsterdam, The Netherlands. However, I will be 17, so money won’t be that plentiful. So I have heard that you can coaches down from London, UK (where I am based) to Amsterdam, on a service called Eurolines. Has anyone here took this journey before? What’s it like?

Well, to be honest I never took it so can’t comment on the that trip but I know eurolines in general so… Eurolines is just a bus carrier throughout Europe. It’s actually the european version of the brittish stagecoaches(or gobby coach or something) So you could expect the same services. I don’t know what kind of criminal problems you expect on a bus but I never experienced one on such long trip journeys(actually not even on local transport). Think it’s as safe as taking a  plane. I know I took a bus service from Ostend to London once and I already tought it took long!(Ostend is a belgian searesort and is thus quite close the the canal where you’d need to cross anyway) But I’m not that keen on bus travelling. So that will probably be the biggest drawback the large travelling time. The eurolines station in amsterdam is right next to the trainstation which is actually in the centre of amsterdam. When you’re afraid of crime on the bus you might be daunted by the first sight of amsterdam. It’s quite common that people try to sell you drugs when you look like a tourist. But that’s primarily an idea you have to get used too. I looks strange first but you’ll get used to it very soon. Since it’s primarily an idea or a cultural shock… Could be that there are also low-cost carrier flights between london and amsterdam probably easyjet but that would mean you have to find transport to and from the airport and that’s something you should calculate. BTW…www.eurolines.nl is the site of eurolines Many, many thanks and I hope somebody can help!

No prob Best regards, James.

Filip

Response:

The eurolines station in amsterdam is right next to the trainstation which is actually in the centre of amsterdam.

Are you sure about this? It must have been a recent change. Every time I’ve used them it’s been at Amstel Station. And that’s also what their web site says (http://www.eurolines.nl/map-adam.html – the thing shown near the north end of the Rokin is just the ticket office, no way they could get a lot of big buses through there without wasting hours of time). miguel — Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu New mini photo-feature: Life in DC: http://travel.u.nu/dc/

Response:

Hi all, I am new to this group and I’m wondering if someone here more experienced than myself could answer me a few questions . I’d greatly appreciate that! Next year, I am moving to Amsterdam, The Netherlands. However, I will be 17, so money won’t be that plentiful. So I have heard that you can coaches down from London, UK (where I am based) to Amsterdam, on a service called Eurolines. Has anyone here took this journey before? What’s it like? Any tips/advice? Should I be worried about crime or for my personal safety upon the coach, or is it very safe? I hope somebody could advise me! Also, where does this Eurolines coach actually stop in Amsterdam? In city centre? Many, many thanks and I hope somebody can help! Best regards, James.

Response:

Next year, I am moving to Amsterdam, The Netherlands. However, I will be 17, so money won’t be that plentiful. So I have heard that you can coaches down from London, UK (where I am based) to Amsterdam, on a service called Eurolines. Has anyone here took this journey before? What’s it like? Any tips/advice? Should I be worried about crime or for my personal safety upon the coach, or is it very safe? I hope somebody could advise me!

The coach is perfectly safe. It’s a long trip, though (coach to the sea, a couple hours on the ferry, then many more hours in the coach). Are you sure it’s not easier to fly? I’ve often flown EasyJet from Luton to Amsterdam for

Question:

Thanks

Response:

Hong Kong nice and not too expensive lodging

You need to define "nice" and "not too expensive".  If you’re looking for convenient tourist class hotels, there are a bunch of them on Nathan Road in Kowloon, about a mile from the harbor. Ken

Response:

Thanks

Good value at Kowloon, Tsimshatsui in a nice Chinese neighbourhood is Caritas Bianchi Lodge hotel. Use www.google.com to find details. It is cheap and good. We use it a lot for our tourist-class customers and everybody is pleased with it. Giny Tozai Travel Amsterdam

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Good value at Kowloon, Tsimshatsui in a nice Chinese neighbourhood is Caritas Bianchi Lodge hotel. Use www.google.com to find details. It is cheap and good. We use it a lot for our tourist-class customers and everybody is pleased with it. Giny Tozai Travel Amsterdam

Nice Chinese neighborhood in Hong Kong?  Who would’ve thunk?!

Response:

Thanks

You’ll find reviews of a couple in my Hong Kong travel journal at http://www.igougo.com/planning/journal.asp?JournalID=7780. You can find cheaper, but I wouldn’t call them nice. Regards, Rick. — Rick Green http://www.igougo.com/planning/journalGuide.asp?GuideID=21335 "If we are always arriving and departing, it is also true that we are eternally anchored. One’s destination is never a place but rather a new way of looking at things"  – Henry Miller

Response:

Question:

Air France from Boston to Paris to Rome – the change in Paris for the Rome flight is only 45 minutes.  Is this enough time?  Where do you clear customs, etc.?  Thanks.

Response:

I wouldn’t risk it.  45 minutes is not nearly enough time to clear customs (in Paris) and connect to the Rome flight.  Good luck. Rich

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Air France from Boston to Paris to Rome – the change in Paris for the Rome flight is only 45 minutes.  Is this enough time?  Where do you clear customs, etc.?  Thanks.

Response:

Why do you think they would clear customs in Paris? Michael – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I wouldn’t risk it.  45 minutes is not nearly enough time to clear customs (in Paris) and connect to the Rome flight.  Good luck. Rich Air France from Boston to Paris to Rome – the change in Paris for the Rome flight is only 45 minutes.  Is this enough time?  Where do you clear customs, etc.?  Thanks.

Response:

I wouldn’t risk it.  45 minutes is not nearly enough time to clear customs (in Paris) and connect to the Rome flight.  Good luck. R

In general one clears customs at their destination in europe (as oppossedto the US where it is first port) Assuming this is a conneciton on the same airline and no terminal change is needed 45 minutes is close but shouldn’t of itself be a problem.

Response:

Air France from Boston to Paris to Rome – the change in Paris for the Rome flight is only 45 minutes.  Is this enough time?  Where do you clear customs, etc.?  Thanks.

You clear customs in Rome. You clear immigration at CDG.

Response:

I wouldn’t risk it.  45 minutes is not nearly enough time to clear customs (in Paris) and connect to the Rome flight.  Good luck. R In general one clears customs at their destination in europe (as oppossedto the US where it is first port) Assuming this is a conneciton on the same airline and no terminal change is needed 45 minutes is close but shouldn’t of itself be a problem.

Unfortunately many people don’t understand the distiction between customs and immigration. He said you have to clear customs, but you don’t; on the other hand he didn’t mention immigration, but you DO have to clear immigration. 45 min is not enough!

Response:

Air France from Boston to Paris to Rome – the change in Paris for the Rome flight is only 45 minutes.  Is this enough time?  Where do you clear customs, etc.?  Thanks. You clear customs in Rome. You clear immigration at CDG.

Should they both not be done in Rome, since the passenger’s final destination is Rome? Is this part of the EU deal? How would they know, if the passenger does not clear customs, that he/she is bringing in contraband since they do not check/ search luggage along with immigration processes?

Response:

You clear customs in Rome. You clear immigration at CDG. Should they both not be done in Rome, since the passenger’s final destination is Rome? Is this part of the EU deal? How would they know, if the passenger does not clear customs, that he/she is bringing in contraband since they do not check/ search luggage along with immigration processes?

No.  Unlike the poor example of Canada, most countries have a SEPERATE immigration and customs process/agency. Since Italy and France fall within the Schengen treaty rules, admission into one country is admission to all.  So you clear immigration at the 1st Schengen country you enter if you are flying to another (since travellers within the Schengen block don;t have to go through immigration) The CUSTOMs (or douane) at your destination is to make sure you comply with that country’s customs regulations

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Air France from Boston to Paris to Rome – the change in Paris for the Rome flight is only 45 minutes.  Is this enough time?  Where do you clear customs, etc.?  Thanks. You clear customs in Rome. You clear immigration at CDG. Should they both not be done in Rome, since the passenger’s final destination is Rome? Is this part of the EU deal? How would they know, if the passenger does not clear customs, that he/she is bringing in contraband since they do not check/ search luggage along with immigration processes?

Immigration is at firt point of entry. Luggage gets checked in to final destination where it goes through custom.  Different luggage tag color indicates luggage that’s entering the EU.  Not that anyone seems to care all that much.  (Except last time at FRA, I think they asked me to open one of our bags.)

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You clear customs in Rome. You clear immigration at CDG. Should they both not be done in Rome, since the passenger’s final destination is Rome? Is this part of the EU deal? How would they know, if the passenger does not clear customs, that he/she is bringing in contraband since they do not check/ search luggage along with immigration processes? No.  Unlike the poor example of Canada, most countries have a SEPERATE immigration and customs process/agency.

Why "poor?"   I suppose I would rather stand in line and be screened only once… The CUSTOMs (or douane) at your destination is to make sure you comply with that country’s customs regulations

I suspect the regulations are now common for the entire EU.  This is probably just a matter of convenience, not having to handle luggage separately, recheck etc.  Most airports in Europe were all effectively "international" anyway, so customes had their station at the luggage exit already.  Now they only look at foreign (non-EU) tags, end of the story.

Response:

Why "poor?"   I suppose I would rather stand in line and be screened only once…

Depends on who by and who you are.  You could be screened again by customs if the official doesn;t liek your face I suspect the regulations are now common for the entire EU.  This is probably just a matter of convenience, not having to handle luggage separately, recheck etc.  Most airports in Europe were all effectively "international" anyway, so customes had their station at the luggage exit already.  Now they only look at foreign (non-EU) tags, end of the story.

I think the allowances are not al the same.  And I bet you’d be scrutinised a lot more returning from the Amsterdam than say Paris or Munich

Response:

I think the allowances are not al the same.  And I bet you’d be scrutinised a lot more returning from the Amsterdam than say Paris or Munich

Customs officers are not that easily fooled. In case they would be, everybody would buy "stuff" in Amsterdam, drive to Munich or Paris and fly from there. I travel from Amsterdam to other countries about 30 times per year and I can’t even remember when was the last time I had to open my bags. (let me think…….o yeah, when I arrived in Vancouver, but I think everyone has to open bags in Canada) Sjoerd

Response:

No.  Unlike the poor example of Canada, most countries have a SEPERATE immigration and customs process/agency.

???? Customs in Canada is handled by the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency, which is part of Revenue Canada.  Immigration is handled by Citizenship and Immigration Canada.  They are two entirely separate ministries. Both have representation in arrivals halls in airports, and after the preliminary screening, you could be sent to one or the other for a more thorough review.  It’s just like how it works at US airports.

Response:

A bit off topic, but.. Are there any other countries following the same and rather odd practice that the US does; Transit passengers must clear immigration and customs? I have travelled two return trips to Mexico with transfer in New York,(same airport (EWR) and terminal, connections within hours), resulting in four entries to the US, when I never intended to go to the US. It didn’t bother me, I got the chance to get outside for a smoke; but it struck me as a lot of unneccessary extra work for immigration and customs. Beefeater

Response:

No.  Unlike the poor example of Canada, most countries have a SEPERATE immigration and customs process/agency. ???? Customs in Canada is handled by the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency, which is part of Revenue Canada.  Immigration is handled by Citizenship and Immigration Canada.  They are two entirely separate ministries.

Have you noticed the 1st official who checks your documents is a custms agent and NOT a immigration one?

Response:

Customs officers are not that easily fooled. In case they would be, everybody would buy "stuff" in Amsterdam, drive to Munich or Paris and fly from there.

something has to account for all the french customs stopping people crossng in from Belgium.  Maybe a profile. I travel from Amsterdam to other countries about 30 times per year and I can’t even remember when was the last time I had to open my bags. (let me think…….o yeah, when I arrived in Vancouver, but I think everyone has to open bags in Canada)

hoof and mouth disease?

Response:

Are there any other countries following the same and rather odd practice that the US does; Transit passengers must clear immigration and customs?

even prior to the new security procedures, the U.S. had poor transit facilities.  If you travelled on certain airlines, you would luck out with some poor transit facility but now, even passengers on through flights that previously enjoyed sterile transit have to clear immigration

Response:

Are there any other countries following the same and rather odd practice that the US does; Transit passengers must clear immigration and customs? even prior to the new security procedures, the U.S. had poor transit facilities.  If you travelled on certain airlines, you would luck out with some poor transit facility but now, even passengers on through flights that previously enjoyed sterile transit have to clear immigration

Both my trips were prior to 9/11. If I were to go to Mexico again today I’d probably go for transit at AMS, CDG or LHR, to avoid the US security paranoia. beefeater

Response:

Are there any other countries following the same and rather odd practice that the US does; Transit passengers must clear immigration and customs? even prior to the new security procedures, the U.S. had poor transit facilities.  If you travelled on certain airlines, you would luck out with some poor transit facility but now, even passengers on through flights that previously enjoyed sterile transit have to clear immigration

So have those NZ-NZ and BA-QF airside tansfers at LAX stopped now? What about pax on the NZ stopping services through HNL or LAX, do they/can they  remain on board, wait in a transit area, or have to clear immigration? –==++AJC++==–

Response:

So have those NZ-NZ and BA-QF airside tansfers at LAX stopped now? What about pax on the NZ stopping services through HNL or LAX, do they/can they  remain on board, wait in a transit area, or have to clear immigration?

That, I do not know about.  But I do know that travellers on CP between YVR & YYZ and SYD and MEL have to clear U.S. entry ordeals at HNL, and CX pax on YYZ-(ANC)-HKG had to clear the same at ANC even if it was just a technical stop.  CX is now rerouting the flight to YVR for refuelling because of that

Response:

Have you noticed the 1st official who checks your documents is a custms agent and NOT a immigration one?

And even the stamp in my passport says: Canada Customs Douanes Sjoerd

Response:

Both my trips were prior to 9/11. If I were to go to Mexico again today I’d probably go for transit at AMS, CDG or LHR, to avoid the US security paranoia.

And US airlines are also losing business because of these requirements. When my Colombian relatives came to visit us in Amsterdam two years ago, the cheapest fares were on a US airline (forgot which one) via the US. But they would need a US visa which is a major hassle for a Colombian citizen to get. So they paid a higher fare and travelled Avianca/KLM via Caracas. Sjoerd

Response:

And US airlines are also losing business because of these requirements. When my Colombian relatives came to visit us in Amsterdam two years ago, the cheapest fares were on a US airline (forgot which one) via the US. But they would need a US visa which is a major hassle for a Colombian citizen to get. So they paid a higher fare and travelled Avianca/KLM via Caracas.

Evidently, the U.S. airlines or the government does;t see the lost revenue being a problem relative to the cost.  Their choice but others do benefit

Response:

Have you noticed the 1st official who checks your documents is a customs agent and NOT a immigration one? And even the stamp in my passport says: Canada Customs Douanes Sjoerd

Yes, and some countries have an immigration agent doing the pre-screening for both Customs and Immigration. I’m not sure what the point is supposed to be. The original post suggested that only one agency handled arrivals in Canada, which is not correct.  It also implied that because of this it was somehow a poorer system than that used in other countries. In reality, one person does the task of two agencies at the arrival interview, which is pretty well how every other country does it, and passes the person on to someone else if more investigation is needed.  If the person doing the arrival interview is properly trained to do the task, does it really matter what agency they are from?

Response:

I’m not sure what the point is supposed to be. The original post suggested that only one agency handled arrivals in Canada, which is not correct.  It also implied that because of this it was somehow a poorer system than that used in other countries. In reality, one person does the task of two agencies at the arrival interview, which is pretty well how every other country does it, and passes the person on to someone else if more investigation is needed.  If the person doing the arrival interview is properly trained to do the task, does it really matter what agency they are from?

Well, in Canada, instead of using professionals  We get green-eyed interns and students.  I (and a few others I know) avoid flying into YVR these days and instead use U.S. airlines into/out of U.S. airports.   Much less hassle at land borders.

Response:

Question:

Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

About Amsterdam and Brussels, my personal impressions and tours, with personal comments and anecdotes on my web site. For Amsterdam start at http://www.jack-travel.com/Amsterdam/NetherlandsPageRight.htm For Brussels http://www.jack-travel.com/Belgium/Html/Brussels_main_Visit_Page.htm Jack Visit my personal website where you’ll find my travel tips, hotel suggestions, and restaurant reviews for Paris, most regions of France, Belgium, Amsterdam and Venice. http://www.jack-travel.com/

Response:

This doesn’t reply specifically to your post, but you might get some ideas from my travel article at http://www.softadventure.net/hollandbikeandboat.htm — Harlan —    Soft adventure tours, the way to go, at http://www.softadventure.net    Costa Rica/Belize/Tikal, http://www.softadventure.net/crbelize2002.htm    Autumn in Japan, http://www.softadventure.net/japan2002.htm

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

Response:

For Amsterdam look at www. bookings.nl . They show most hotels and also some interesting packages. Enjoy your stay www.hotelamsterdam.nl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This doesn’t reply specifically to your post, but you might get some ideas from my travel article at http://www.softadventure.net/hollandbikeandboat.htm — Harlan —   Soft adventure tours, the way to go, at http://www.softadventure.net   Costa Rica/Belize/Tikal, http://www.softadventure.net/crbelize2002.htm   Autumn in Japan, http://www.softadventure.net/japan2002.htm Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

Response:

Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

Response:

Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

www.simplyamsterdam.nl www.ignatzmice.com www.boomchicago.nl www.visitholland.com Sjoerd

Response:

Hi Bobbi, http://www.thetravelzine.com/ejht2.htm for Amsterdam and http://www.thetravelzine.com/brussels1100.htm for Brussels. Have a great trip! Happy Holidays, Don and Linda http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thetravelzine/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

Response:

http://www.timeout.com/amsterdam/ http://www.channels.nl/ http://www.cwi.nl/~steven/amsterdam.html http://amsterdam.start4all.com/ http://www.visitamsterdam.nl/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

Response:

I talk about these cities, among other places, on my trip report web pages.  First page is at … http://www.blarg.net/~brad/eur2000/eur00-1.htm. Follow link at the bottom of each page to the next one.  There are 11 pages in all. Also describes my visit to Ghent, Brugges, Antwerp and some smaller towns in Belgium and the Netherlands. Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

–

Response:

Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

Response:

Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

www.simplyamsterdam.nl www.ignatzmice.com www.boomchicago.nl www.visitholland.com Sjoerd

Response:

Hi Bobbi, http://www.thetravelzine.com/ejht2.htm for Amsterdam and http://www.thetravelzine.com/brussels1100.htm for Brussels. Have a great trip! Happy Holidays, Don and Linda http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thetravelzine/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

Response:

http://www.timeout.com/amsterdam/ http://www.channels.nl/ http://www.cwi.nl/~steven/amsterdam.html http://amsterdam.start4all.com/ http://www.visitamsterdam.nl/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

Response:

I talk about these cities, among other places, on my trip report web pages.  First page is at … http://www.blarg.net/~brad/eur2000/eur00-1.htm. Follow link at the bottom of each page to the next one.  There are 11 pages in all. Also describes my visit to Ghent, Brugges, Antwerp and some smaller towns in Belgium and the Netherlands. Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

–

Response:

This doesn’t reply specifically to your post, but you might get some ideas from my travel article at http://www.softadventure.net/hollandbikeandboat.htm — Harlan —    Soft adventure tours, the way to go, at http://www.softadventure.net    Costa Rica/Belize/Tikal, http://www.softadventure.net/crbelize2002.htm    Autumn in Japan, http://www.softadventure.net/japan2002.htm

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

Response:

For Amsterdam look at www. bookings.nl . They show most hotels and also some interesting packages. Enjoy your stay www.hotelamsterdam.nl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This doesn’t reply specifically to your post, but you might get some ideas from my travel article at http://www.softadventure.net/hollandbikeandboat.htm — Harlan —   Soft adventure tours, the way to go, at http://www.softadventure.net   Costa Rica/Belize/Tikal, http://www.softadventure.net/crbelize2002.htm   Autumn in Japan, http://www.softadventure.net/japan2002.htm Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

Response:

Can anyone please refer me to any sites that have accommodation, travel, tips. and sights? Thank You Bobbi

About Amsterdam and Brussels, my personal impressions and tours, with personal comments and anecdotes on my web site. For Amsterdam start at http://www.jack-travel.com/Amsterdam/NetherlandsPageRight.htm For Brussels http://www.jack-travel.com/Belgium/Html/Brussels_main_Visit_Page.htm Jack Visit my personal website where you’ll find my travel tips, hotel suggestions, and restaurant reviews for Paris, most regions of France, Belgium, Amsterdam and Venice. http://www.jack-travel.com/

Response:

Question:

  Actually, what I was   trying to do was to hint to the original poster that rather than tick   off the "must sees" like a scoreboard, travel is much better done by   getting *involved* (non-destructively) and celebrating what you see. I   didn’t mean that as a list of personal remembrances so much as an idea   of getting involved a little, rather than passively chalking up sights   like commodities. Though we appreciate you attempt in subtlety, that style gets in the way in this type of forum, where most, not all but most, readers want information and straight talk. To try to "hint to the original poster" is, for the most part, just dancing around his query. That reference to the cafe in Vienna can be construed to mean that the Cafe is a "must see", or the city of Vienna is a "must see". If you could have at least prefaced your post with something like "I don’t believe in just rattling off a stale list of "must sees", and so here’s …..", may have been more apropos.   I don’t think personal travel books   really sell, though (and much of it would be outside Europe anyway,   as when our jeep got caught in a flash flood in Borneo after visiting   headhunters and was dragged downstream, or the time no one told me not   to pet the snakes in the pit viper temple in Penang, which almost cost   me my life, or the time our car wouldn’t start in Afghanistan and the   whole village turned out to push it, getting robbed in Iran, trying to   cross borders with someone who turned out to be a wanted smuggler,   which I only found out after all the machine guns came out…uh oh,   this is already turning into a travelogue…) If your intent was to impress us with the breadth and depth of your travel list, then it worked. I am totally impressed with the list of places you recited above. I still say it would beneficial for you to write a travelogue. Beneficial not in the monetary sense but in the cathartic sense. Besides, don’t you want people to vicariously experience your travels to all those exotic places? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Great starter list though a bit esoteric for my taste, specially when it includes "hitching a ride on a barge on the Danube". And the reference to "Pouring cream over your tort in the Sacher cafe, Vienna, while being kissed" may be memorable to the poster, but means absolutely nothing to most readers, much less being in a "must see" list. Actually I think I made a mistake there–should have been Cafe Zauner, Sacher tort, I think… Besides, I started shivering after reading the list because most of the sights seemed a wee bit "cold" for my taste. Also no sights in Italy or Spain, which happen to be my 2 favorites countries. Well, certainly Italy would have shown up in a longer list, especially Rome. And unfortunately, I’ve only been to Spain twice, both years ago… All in all, though, it seems like to have some pent-up emotions that need to be expressed. Ever thought of writing a travel book and reminiscing on all your experiences? Your feelings may be better served that way rather than in a forum like this. I only say this because most of the sights you mentions would only be in a "must see" due to some emotional attachments to those sights. *smile* Thanks for the kind words. I don’t think personal travel books really sell, though (and much of it would be outside Europe anyway, as when our jeep got caught in a flash flood in Borneo after visiting headhunters and was dragged downstream, or the time no one told me not to pet the snakes in the pit viper temple in Penang, which almost cost me my life, or the time our car wouldn’t start in Afghanistan and the whole village turned out to push it, getting robbed in Iran, trying to cross borders with someone who turned out to be a wanted smuggler, which I only found out after all the machine guns came out…uh oh, this is already turning into a travelogue…). Actually, what I was trying to do was to hint to the original poster that rather than tick off the "must sees" like a scoreboard, travel is much better done by getting *involved* (non-destructively) and celebrating what you see. I didn’t mean that as a list of personal remembrances so much as an idea of getting involved a little, rather than passively chalking up sights like commodities. Hi People I’m wondering if anyone can provide a pointer to a list of "must see" places in Europe.  I’m guessing some travel sites would have such a list but am yet to find one. Must sees, a starter list: Austrian Alps and lakes, viewed from a snowy, cold mountaintop where the air is thin and painful to breathe The moon through the black pines at night as your train crosses the arctic circle Chartres cathedral’s central window pouring rose-colored light over you The Irish sea whipping salt spray in your face as you finish the last of the bottle at the end of the pier Feeling yourself pulled heavenwards while standing under the octagon latern (nave crossing filled with light) in Ely cathedral, England Raw herring and cold lager in Amsterdam as canal boats pass under the bridge you’re sitting on Idiosyncratic small hotels in Paris with overdecorated decadent rooms and a staff straight out of a play by Brecht Climbing the inside of a burned out castle’s tower on the Rhine, ignoring the Do Not Enter signs, and knowing you’re the first to do so in 400 years Pouring cream over your tort in the Sacher cafe, Vienna, while being kissed Touching the Rosetta stone in the British Museum when the guards aren’t looking Hitching a ride on a barge on the Danube, and trying to pitch a tent on the coal Bicycling down the Gro

Question:

YIKES, my apologies, Peter. You are right, semantics is important. My question was unclear. I sit corrected..:-) Thanx for your inputs guys, but my Hong Kong trip got cancelled..:-( Would hugely appreciate any good leads on 5-6 days holiday in Thailand. I am so very confused with so much information on the net, not sure what to go for. Shall post another message with an appropriate subject line, for wider audience. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well while you two bicker about symatics I will let you know that the YMCA in Kowloon is about $25 US a night for a bed.   That bed happens to be a bunk bed with up to 3 other same sex guests staying in that room with a bathroom.  That is the best deal I have found and it is next to the Penisula hotel. Good luck,    Doug p.s. if you find something for  $40 HK let me know, lol The dorm room in the Y is an excellent suggestion, much better than Chung King Mansion.  But the Y is nowhere near any "suburb".  It’s right in the center of the city. Still, semantics is very important.  Without language, what do we have left in a discussion group? That was very helpful..:-) If your question is not clear, it’s difficult to give you a good answer.  So what is a suburb in HK?  And what currency are you referring to? I am planning to visit HK from 8th to 11th Nov. Can someone please recommend any good hotels in the suburbs for in about the $40 range? Suburbs?  What is a suburb in HK?  Shatin? $40 US?

Response:

Well while you two bicker about symatics I will let you know that the YMCA in Kowloon is about $25 US a night for a bed.   That bed happens to be a bunk bed with up to 3 other same sex guests staying in that room with a bathroom.  That is the best deal I have found and it is next to the Penisula hotel. Good luck,    Doug p.s. if you find something for  $40 HK let me know, lol

The dorm room in the Y is an excellent suggestion, much better than Chung King Mansion.  But the Y is nowhere near any "suburb".  It’s right in the center of the city. Still, semantics is very important.  Without language, what do we have left in a discussion group? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – That was very helpful..:-) If your question is not clear, it’s difficult to give you a good answer.  So what is a suburb in HK?  And what currency are you referring to? I am planning to visit HK from 8th to 11th Nov. Can someone please recommend any good hotels in the suburbs for in about the $40 range? Suburbs?  What is a suburb in HK?  Shatin? $40 US?

Response:

Well while you two bicker about symatics I will let you know that the YMCA in Kowloon is about $25 US a night for a bed.   That bed happens to be a bunk bed with up to 3 other same sex guests staying in that room with a bathroom.  That is the best deal I have found and it is next to the Penisula hotel. Good luck,    Doug p.s. if you find something for  $40 HK let me know, lol

That was very helpful..:-) If your question is not clear, it’s difficult to give you a good answer.  So what is a suburb in HK?  And what currency are you referring to?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am planning to visit HK from 8th to 11th Nov. Can someone please recommend any good hotels in the suburbs for in about the $40 range? Suburbs?  What is a suburb in HK?  Shatin? $40 US?

Response:

If the question was unclear, how can anyone give a good answer?

That was very helpful..:-)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am planning to visit HK from 8th to 11th Nov. Can someone please recommend any good hotels in the suburbs for in about the $40 range? Suburbs?  What is a suburb in HK?  Shatin? $40 US?

Response:

Maybe you should try to help.  Find out what is a suburb for Hong Kong. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Peter the pumpkin eater has showed his wisdom yet again !!!! I am planning to visit HK from 8th to 11th Nov. Can someone please recommend any good hotels in the suburbs for in about the $40 range? Suburbs?  What is a suburb in HK?  Shatin? $40 US? Yes it is possible, I often book for my customers Caritas Bianchi Lodge, Yaumati, Kowloon. Search for Caritas Bianchi and you will find it. It is clean, 2 stars hotel, rooms with bath and breakfast for about $ 40 p.p. per night/. Giny Tozai Travel Amsterdam

Response:

That was very helpful..:-)

If your question is not clear, it’s difficult to give you a good answer.  So what is a suburb in HK?  And what currency are you referring to? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am planning to visit HK from 8th to 11th Nov. Can someone please recommend any good hotels in the suburbs for in about the $40 range? Suburbs?  What is a suburb in HK?  Shatin? $40 US?

Response:

Try this one. I was there in  August and it was very clean and you can use a washing machine and Internet. Say you want to stay in the 6. floor which is new renovated. http://rentaroomhk.com/ Maik

Response:

Peter the pumpkin eater has showed his wisdom yet again !!!!

Why don’t you answer his question, smartass. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am planning to visit HK from 8th to 11th Nov. Can someone please recommend any good hotels in the suburbs for in about the $40 range? Suburbs?  What is a suburb in HK?  Shatin? $40 US? Yes it is possible, I often book for my customers Caritas Bianchi Lodge, Yaumati, Kowloon. Search for Caritas Bianchi and you will find it. It is clean, 2 stars hotel, rooms with bath and breakfast for about $ 40 p.p. per night/. Giny Tozai Travel Amsterdam

Response:

That was very helpful..:-)

Maybe not, but you didn’t specify the currency (Hong Kong has $ too), and "suburbs" are not really a normal distinction for finding lodging in HK. If you’re looking for low density as opposed to low prices you’ll have to avoid most of the usual budget choices, which are in extremely high population density areas. Best regards, — Spehro Pefhany –"it’s the network…"            "The Journey is the reward" Embedded software/hardware/analog  Info for designers:  http://www.speff.com       /.-.      (( * ))       \ //     Please help if you can:        \      http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/       //\      /// \      /   /

Response:

That was very helpful..:-) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am planning to visit HK from 8th to 11th Nov. Can someone please recommend any good hotels in the suburbs for in about the $40 range? Suburbs?  What is a suburb in HK?  Shatin? $40 US?

Response:

So its a regular is it?. Gosh makes me feel much better. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Peter the pumpkin eater has showed his wisdom yet again !!!! I am planning to visit HK from 8th to 11th Nov. Can someone please recommend any good hotels in the suburbs for in about the $40 range? Suburbs?  What is a suburb in HK?  Shatin? $40 US? Yes it is possible, I often book for my customers Caritas Bianchi Lodge, Yaumati, Kowloon. Search for Caritas Bianchi and you will find it. It is clean, 2 stars hotel, rooms with bath and breakfast for about $ 40 p.p. per night/. Giny Tozai Travel Amsterdam

Response:

Peter the pumpkin eater has showed his wisdom yet again !!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am planning to visit HK from 8th to 11th Nov. Can someone please recommend any good hotels in the suburbs for in about the $40 range? Suburbs?  What is a suburb in HK?  Shatin? $40 US? Yes it is possible, I often book for my customers Caritas Bianchi Lodge, Yaumati, Kowloon. Search for Caritas Bianchi and you will find it. It is clean, 2 stars hotel, rooms with bath and breakfast for about $ 40 p.p. per night/. Giny Tozai Travel Amsterdam

Response:

I am planning to visit HK from 8th to 11th Nov. Can someone please recommend any good hotels in the suburbs for in about the $40 range? Suburbs?  What is a suburb in HK?  Shatin? $40 US?

Yes it is possible, I often book for my customers Caritas Bianchi Lodge, Yaumati, Kowloon. Search for Caritas Bianchi and you will find it. It is clean, 2 stars hotel, rooms with bath and breakfast for about $ 40 p.p. per night/. Giny Tozai Travel Amsterdam

Response:

I am planning to visit HK from 8th to 11th Nov. Can someone please recommend any good hotels in the suburbs for in about the $40 range?

Suburbs?  What is a suburb in HK?  Shatin? $40 US?

Response:

I am planning to visit HK from 8th to 11th Nov. Can someone please recommend any good hotels in the suburbs for in about the $40 range?

Response:

Question:

Hi there, just wondering whether anyone can recommend any really good clubs in amsterdam that plays funky house music.  Or are ther any nice cafe’s where they don’t play bob marley.  I am thinkinf of going for a long weekend and also need to find some good cheap accomadation in the city centre.  All information would be really helpfull, thanks

Response:

Hi there, just wondering whether anyone can recommend any really good clubs in amsterdam that plays funky house music.  Or are ther any nice cafe’s where they don’t play bob marley.  I am thinkinf of going for a long weekend and also need to find some good cheap accomadation in the city centre.  All information would be really helpfull, thanks

I have the ideal file for you. Just go and check the page about discotheques in the Amsterdam section of my web site or start at http://www.jack-travel.com/Amsterdam/Amsterdam_Nightlife.htm Jack Visit my personal website where you’ll find my travel tips, hotel suggestions, and restaurant reviews for Paris, most regions of France, Belgium, Amsterdam and Venice. http://www.jack-travel.com/

Response:

travel at amsterdam 2001… welcome on my personal web site jacques http://perso.wanadoo.fr/j2.jaeger/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there, just wondering whether anyone can recommend

Response:

Hi there, just wondering whether anyone can recommend any really good clubs in amsterdam that plays funky house music.  Or are ther any nice cafe’s where they don’t play bob marley.  I am thinkinf of going for a long weekend and also need to find some good cheap accomadation in the city centre.  All information would be really helpfull, thanks

Response:

Hi there, just wondering whether anyone can recommend any really good clubs in amsterdam that plays funky house music.  Or are ther any nice cafe’s where they don’t play bob marley.  I am thinkinf of going for a long weekend and also need to find some good cheap accomadation in the city centre.  All information would be really helpfull, thanks

I have the ideal file for you. Just go and check the page about discotheques in the Amsterdam section of my web site or start at http://www.jack-travel.com/Amsterdam/Amsterdam_Nightlife.htm Jack Visit my personal website where you’ll find my travel tips, hotel suggestions, and restaurant reviews for Paris, most regions of France, Belgium, Amsterdam and Venice. http://www.jack-travel.com/

Response:

travel at amsterdam 2001… welcome on my personal web site jacques http://perso.wanadoo.fr/j2.jaeger/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there, just wondering whether anyone can recommend

Response: