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Hi- Im looking for help with summertime discount prices on air from Istanbul back to Germany, (one-way)… preferably Berlin, but Frankfurt would do as well. My choices seem to be Turkish Air, Czech Air and Azerbaijan Airlines but the cheapest fare is over $400 one way back to Berlin… but flights.com does not have detail flight info on the latter two and Turkish Air site will only display business class and only 3 months out ($700)… so I dont give much value to that $400 either. Are there any scheduled charters, consolidators, travel agents that you could suggest for this 3 hour flight… Im thinking like $200 for this trip… is this not realistic ? Thanx. jay Sun, Feb 10, 2002 — Legend insists that as he finished his abject… Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."

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Are there any scheduled charters, consolidators, travel agents that you could suggest for this 3 hour flight… Im thinking like $200 for this trip… is this not realistic ?

Try telephoning the student travel (Travel CUTS, STA Travel, etc. – Council Travel if you’re desperate) agency affiliates on the ground in Turkey. They’ll speak English, are quite reliable, and will know about the various options better than anyone out of the country. They are able to sell non-student tickets. When in Turkey we were able to buy cheap last-minute one-ways from these places with ease. miguel — Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu

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Are there any scheduled charters, consolidators, travel agents that you could suggest for this 3 hour flight… Im thinking like $200 for this trip… is this not realistic ? Try telephoning the student travel (Travel CUTS, STA Travel, etc. – Council Travel if you’re desperate) agency affiliates on the ground in Turkey. They’ll speak English, are quite reliable, and will know about the various options better than anyone out of the country. They are able to sell non-student tickets. When in Turkey we were able to buy cheap last-minute one-ways from these places with ease.

My biggest concern is that this is in August and while I have 6 days in IST, I have only given an overnight back in germany to catch a trans-Atlantic flight that is date fixed. The fares you were seeing were on scheduled flights or charters (that I cant search for) ? Did they also have cheap fares to Ephesus… on the Turkish air site its just over $200 return, not bad I guess really. thanx jay Sun, Feb 10, 2002 miguel

– Legend insists that as he finished his abject… Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Are there any scheduled charters, consolidators, travel agents that you could suggest for this 3 hour flight… Im thinking like $200 for this trip… is this not realistic ? Try telephoning the student travel (Travel CUTS, STA Travel, etc. – Council Travel if you’re desperate) agency affiliates on the ground in Turkey. They’ll speak English, are quite reliable, and will know about the various options better than anyone out of the country. They are able to sell non-student tickets. When in Turkey we were able to buy cheap last-minute one-ways from these places with ease. My biggest concern is that this is in August and while I have 6 days in IST, I have only given an overnight back in germany to catch a trans-Atlantic flight that is date fixed. The fares you were seeing were on scheduled flights or charters (that I cant search for) ? Did they also have cheap fares to Ephesus… on the Turkish air site its just over $200 return, not bad I guess really.

I think you are asking a lot if you expect to book a ‘legal’ ticket from outside Turkey for this – realistically, the way you’ll travel for that kind of money is by buying a Sat night throw away locally (which will almost always be cheaper than one way). As an alternative to those the above, try Malev in Istanbul, who can be cheap for connections. Dont mention the ‘throw away’ bit, obviously, which I can’t condone or recommend and wouldn’t do myself etc etc Address: Elmadag Cumhuriyet Caddesi 141-147, Umac apt. Tel: (+90)(212)232 4839 Fax: (+90)(212) 230 2034

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Try telephoning the student travel (Travel CUTS, STA Travel, etc. – Council Travel if you’re desperate) agency affiliates on the ground in Turkey. They’ll speak English, are quite reliable, and will know about the various options better than anyone out of the country. They are able to sell non-student tickets. When in Turkey we were able to buy cheap last-minute one-ways from these places with ease. My biggest concern is that this is in August and while I have 6 days in IST, I have only given an overnight back in germany to catch a trans-Atlantic flight that is date fixed.

By all means call them now (well, in about 10 hours). It costs 24 cents/minute to call Turkey with 1016868, so it won’t break the bank. The fares you were seeing were on scheduled flights or charters (that I cant search for) ?

We flew regular flights on Turk Hava Yollari or whatever Turkish Airways is called domestically. Did they also have cheap fares to Ephesus… on the Turkish air site its just over $200 return, not bad I guess really.

The most we paid was about $70 from Adana to Istanbul on the way back from Syria. That’s about 450 miles so if it’s any benchmark (I have no idea how fares are structured) you shouldn’t expect to be paying all that much. We took an overnight bus from Istanbul to Selcuk so don’t know about the fares for that. Also, we were there a couple years ago, so things may be different now. But it’s definitely worth making the phone call. miguel — Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu

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Try telephoning the student travel (Travel CUTS, STA Travel, etc. – Council Travel if you’re desperate) agency affiliates on the ground in Turkey. They’ll speak English, are quite reliable, and will know about the various options better than anyone out of the country. They are able to sell non-student tickets. When in Turkey we were able to buy cheap last-minute one-ways from these places with ease. My biggest concern is that this is in August and while I have 6 days in IST, I have only given an overnight back in germany to catch a trans-Atlantic flight that is date fixed. By all means call them now (well, in about 10 hours). It costs 24 cents/minute to call Turkey with 1016868, so it won’t break the bank.

Thanx for this reference… I went to their site… are there really no hidden charges… is it telephony or ISP, ie. quality ? My traveling mate is a student and is currently in Germany, I directed him tho the specific STA site in Germany to make inquiries (as were returning to Germany) but there is no STA site for Turkey, so I’m not sure how I can get a local IST,STA Affiliate phone number… jay Sun, Feb 10, 2002 — Legend insists that as he finished his abject… Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi- Im looking for help with summertime discount prices on air from Istanbul back to Germany, (one-way)… preferably Berlin, but Frankfurt would do as well. My choices seem to be Turkish Air, Czech Air and Azerbaijan Airlines but the cheapest fare is over $400 one way back to Berlin… but flights.com does not have detail flight info on the latter two and Turkish Air site will only display business class and only 3 months out ($700)… so I dont give much value to that $400 either. Are there any scheduled charters, consolidators, travel agents that you could suggest for this 3 hour flight… Im thinking like $200 for this trip… is this not realistic ? Thanx. jay Sun, Feb 10, 2002

There are always a lot of charters between Turkey and Germany (where most Turkish people outside of Turkey live). Take a look at www.oegertours.de a touroperator on the German market, founded by a Turk and specialized on Turkey. If you are in Berlin prior to your trip to Turkey, you can easily find a ticket to IST for about 200Euro round trip. Just take a walk in the Kreuzberg area, there are zillions of Turkish travel agencies! If you want to purchase a flight in the last minute (i.e. at least 2 weeks prior to departure), check out www.ltur.de or www.lastminute.de or www.5vorflug.de I flew Izmir-Istanbul myself (Izmir is the closest airport to Ephesos) and in 1999, the flight was way less than $200 (one way). We flew with TK as well. HTH Tatjana in Berlin

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Thanx very much for this info jay Sun, Feb 10, 2002 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi- Im looking for help with summertime discount prices on air from Istanbul back to Germany, (one-way)… preferably Berlin, but Frankfurt would do as well. My choices seem to be Turkish Air, Czech Air and Azerbaijan Airlines but the cheapest fare is over $400 one way back to Berlin… but flights.com does not have detail flight info on the latter two and Turkish Air site will only display business class and only 3 months out ($700)… so I dont give much value to that $400 either. Are there any scheduled charters, consolidators, travel agents that you could suggest for this 3 hour flight… Im thinking like $200 for this trip… is this not realistic ? Thanx. jay Sun, Feb 10, 2002 There are always a lot of charters between Turkey and Germany (where most Turkish people outside of Turkey live). Take a look at www.oegertours.de a touroperator on the German market, founded by a Turk and specialized on Turkey. If you are in Berlin prior to your trip to Turkey, you can easily find a ticket to IST for about 200Euro round trip. Just take a walk in the Kreuzberg area, there are zillions of Turkish travel agencies! If you want to purchase a flight in the last minute (i.e. at least 2 weeks prior to departure), check out www.ltur.de or www.lastminute.de or www.5vorflug.de I flew Izmir-Istanbul myself (Izmir is the closest airport to Ephesos) and in 1999, the flight was way less than $200 (one way). We flew with TK as well. HTH Tatjana in Berlin

– Legend insists that as he finished his abject… Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."

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By all means call them now (well, in about 10 hours). It costs 24 cents/minute to call Turkey with 1016868, so it won’t break the bank. Thanx for this reference… I went to their site… are there really no hidden charges… is it telephony or ISP, ie. quality ?

I’ve been using it ever since my previous long distance company went bankrupt (!) just because I’ve been too lazy to sign up with anyone else. The quality seems fine, and they don’t charge any special fees or minimums (other than the federal taxes that all long distance companies are required to charge). It’s not as cheap as the cheapest carriers, but for 10c/min to the Netherlands and 12c to Australia, it solves my problems. My traveling mate is a student and is currently in Germany, I directed him tho the specific STA site in Germany to make inquiries (as were returning to Germany) but there is no STA site for Turkey, so I’m not sure how I can get a local IST,STA Affiliate phone number…

I dug up the receipt from the place we used in Istanbul; it was called Genctur (for what it’s worth, they pronounce the C like a J). It was within walking distance of the Aya Sofia in the Sultanahmet area; the phone number is +90 212 520 5274. I had initially gotten their number from the Travel CUTS (Canadian student travel org) site. miguel — Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu

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My traveling mate is a student and is currently in Germany, I directed him tho the specific STA site in Germany to make inquiries (as were returning to Germany) but there is no STA site for Turkey, so I’m not sure how I can get a local IST,STA Affiliate phone number… I dug up the receipt from the place we used in Istanbul; it was called Genctur (for what it’s worth, they pronounce the C like a J). It was within walking distance of the Aya Sofia in the Sultanahmet area; the phone number is +90 212 520 5274. I had initially gotten their number from the Travel CUTS (Canadian student travel org) site.

Thanx so much for your efforts, Im sure it will be a very good resource for getting beyond this hurdle. jay Sun, Feb 10, 2002 miguel — Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu

– Legend insists that as he finished his abject… Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi- Im looking for help with summertime discount prices on air from Istanbul back to Germany, (one-way)… preferably Berlin, but Frankfurt would do as well. My choices seem to be Turkish Air, Czech Air and Azerbaijan Airlines but the cheapest fare is over $400 one way back to Berlin… but flights.com does not have detail flight info on the latter two and Turkish Air site will only display business class and only 3 months out ($700)… so I dont give much value to that $400 either. Are there any scheduled charters, consolidators, travel agents that you could suggest for this 3 hour flight… Im thinking like $200 for this trip… is this not realistic ? Thanx. jay Sun, Feb 10, 2002 — Legend insists that as he finished his abject… Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."

I’m an American who booked my vacation via a travel agency/tour wholesaler in Germany.  It was much cheaper for me this way.  I flew on Free Bird Airlines which is a charter airline that flies from Berlin to Istanbul non-stop.  Berlin is home to the largest Turkish population outside of Turkey.  The airline was decent although I felt uncomfortable being that I was the only  Asian-American on the flight.  You can contact TurkTur for great deals.  They speak English and have good rates with Free Bird Airlines.  www.turktur.de

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I flew on Free Bird Airlines which is a charter airline that flies from Berlin to Istanbul non-stop.  Berlin is home to the largest Turkish population outside of Turkey.  The airline was decent although I felt uncomfortable being that I was the only Asian-American on the flight.

Why? miguel — Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu

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I’m an American who booked my vacation via a travel agency/tour wholesaler in Germany.  It was much cheaper for me this way.  I flew on Free Bird Airlines which is a charter airline that flies from Berlin to Istanbul non-stop. Berlin is home to the largest Turkish population outside of Turkey.  The airline was decent although I felt uncomfortable being that I was the only Asian-American on the flight.  You can contact TurkTur for great deals.  They speak English and have good rates with Free Bird Airlines.  www.turktur.de

Free Bird Airlines??? Never ever heard of them. BTW are you sure about the link? There is a Turkish site that appears with Turkish MP3s for download…… Could it be http://www.tuerktur.de/ ??? Tatjana in Berlin

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Turk Hava Yollari (Turkish Airlines) IST  FRA 1587 A313 Airbus  Y 0 8:35 AM 10:40 AM Total price ow pp including taxes is 396.00 USD. http://airtravelcenter.com/atcbrokerww.htm Istanbul (IST) – Amsterdam (AMS) 06.00 – 13 MAR 2002 08.35 – 13 MAR 2002 Klm Royal Dutch Airlines 1610 S  Amsterdam (AMS) – Berlin (TXL) 09.40 – 13 MAR 2002 10.55 – 13 MAR 2002 Klm Royal Dutch Airlines 1823 S USD 385.00 TAX USD 27.57 USD 412.57 http://airtravelcenter.com/tselect.htm more options via http://airtravelcenter.com/flyeurope.html — Air Travel Center on the web airtravelcenter.com email over the air airtravelcenter.ch voice wire 1-717-732-7222 1-800-931-7222 data wire 1-717-728-1269 snail mail 1 East Manor Avenue (rear bldg) Enola, Pa. US 17025-2822

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi- Im looking for help with summertime discount prices on air from Istanbul back to Germany, (one-way)… preferably Berlin, but Frankfurt would do as well. My choices seem to be Turkish Air, Czech Air and Azerbaijan Airlines but the cheapest fare is over $400 one way back to Berlin… but flights.com does not have detail flight info on the latter two and Turkish Air site will only display business class and only 3 months out ($700)… so I dont give much value to that $400 either. Are there any scheduled charters, consolidators, travel agents that you could suggest for this 3 hour flight… Im thinking like $200 for this trip… is this not realistic ? Thanx. jay Sun, Feb 10, 2002 — Legend insists that as he finished his abject… Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m an American who booked my vacation via a travel agency/tour wholesaler in Germany.  It was much cheaper for me this way.  I flew on Free Bird Airlines which is a charter airline that flies from Berlin to Istanbul non-stop. Berlin is home to the largest Turkish population outside of Turkey.  The airline was decent although I felt uncomfortable being that I was the only Asian-American on the flight.  You can contact TurkTur for great deals.  They speak English and have good rates with Free Bird Airlines.  www.turktur.de Free Bird Airlines??? Never ever heard of them. BTW are you sure about the link? There is a Turkish site that appears with Turkish MP3s for download…… Could it be http://www.tuerktur.de/ ??? Tatjana in Berlin

It’s a pretty good airline, actually.  They fly only twice a week from Tegel. The service was good, not so friendly, but then I’m already used to that flying with Lufthansa.  The food was okay too.  For a three hour flight, it was well worth the money.  Most of the passengers were Turks going back home.  I don’t think they cater to tourists as most Germans would prefer staying somewhere along the coast than Istanbul. The tour operator (TurkTur) was really cheap.  We stayed at a Best Western for five days with breakfast including airfare for only $275.00 per person (travel industry rate).  With the dollar being high against the DM at the time and Turkey’s devalued currency it was a real bargain for me. I hope the dollar stays high as I plan to go back to Berlin later this year.  What a beautiful

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s a pretty good airline, actually.  They fly only twice a week from Tegel. The service was good, not so friendly, but then I’m already used to that flying with Lufthansa.  The food was okay too.  For a three hour flight, it was well worth the money.  Most of the passengers were Turks going back home.  I don’t think they cater to tourists as most Germans would prefer staying somewhere along the coast than Istanbul. The tour operator (TurkTur) was really cheap.  We stayed at a Best Western for five days with breakfast including airfare for only $275.00 per person (travel industry rate).  With the dollar being high against the DM at the time and Turkey’s devalued currency it was a real bargain for me. I hope the dollar stays high as I plan to go back to Berlin later this year.  What a beautiful

Thanx for you input! Do you happen to know what days they RETURN to Berlin from IST (I only need return passage) ? Do you think I will have to buy a round trip ticket and discard one of the legs or will they sell a one-way ticket without a substantial penalty ? Thanx Again! jay Mon, Feb 11, 2002 — Legend insists that as he finished his abject… Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanx for you input! Do you happen to know what days they RETURN to Berlin from IST (I only need return passage) ? Do you think I will have to buy a round trip ticket and discard one of the legs or will they sell a one-way ticket without a substantial penalty ? Thanx Again! jay Mon, Feb 11, 2002 —

I believe you can purchase a one-way ticket, although sometimes it’s cheaper to book roundtrip and discard the return leg.  You might want to check with them on that.  As for the schedules, they fly on the same days from IST to Berlin TXL; they simply do a turnaround in Berlin.  They might change their schedule as the season has changed.    I think booking through them is much cheaper than a scheduled airline.  Plus, they offer nonstop service.  They operate on a MD-80 aircraft with meals and all, even though it’s only for three hours or so.  I think you can also see how the airline looks like on the Internet.  I was hesitate to fly with them as first.  I thought I would be flying with chickens in the cabin, but it’s like a regular airline. Hope this helps!

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